Someone else finding wisdom in the Marie Kondo thing. I'm not the world's tidiest person, and I am a bit of a hoarder, but I live with someone who is both less tidy and more of a hoarder than me. That frustrates me, especially over shared spaces, which almost all of them are. Chris highlighted one passage which suggests that blaming someone else for their untidiness is really about one's own untidiness. I really don't see, though, how to impose tidyiness on another. I can put stuff back in the "right" place over and over again, doesn't seem to change anything.