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TO: app developers considering #Mastodon and other #ActivityPub related apps and interfaces
Perhaps spend a day or two to add Micropub support to the platform first, then your app could potentially be used to publish to ANY website/platform that supports the W3C spec. #OpenWeb #IndieWeb #FTW
@chrisaldrich https://anagora.org/ActivityPubhttps://anagora.org/FTWhttps://anagora.org/IndieWebhttps://anagora.org/Mastodonhttps://anagora.org/OpenWeb
Node [[activitypub]] in anagora.org
@chrisaldrich Does Mastodon or any activity.pub app support Micropub then?
@chrisaldrich That’s interesting. I thought few days ago would Twitter even exist if #RSS spec weren’t so focused on readers? I haven’t followed RSS spec, but I don’t think it had write API, just reading API.If first gen RSS readers had also little box to write posts and post to own site, it could have mitigated the need for Twitter in first place.
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@jayrope Not yet to my knowledge. Some benefits are that Micropub is easier than ActivityPub C2S https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/101059803950665324;and you can use the same app and infrastructure to post to so many more platforms.
@Ciantic This sort of infrastructure and apps using open web specs now exists for those who’d like to use them. Examples and details at https://indieweb.org/social_reader
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@chrisaldrich Thank you. I am unsure about this. Isn’t social media primarily about rich discussion, only secondarily or for some about reach? To me Mastodon does what i need (discussion) quite perfectly. I don’t notice a lack of reach.
@chrisaldrich I just think there is no critical mass for multiple efforts.I’m now reading the Micropub spec. It looks like Micropub would be ideal: replying to links. Full support for HTML.Mastodon is what we get now, lack of richer HTML support is what pains me most here.
@jayrope @chrisaldrich https://micro.blog does and the personal CMS software that @aaronpk wrote for https://aaronparecki.com does to my knowledge.
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@liaizon I looked at https://micro.blog/pricing and think, i’m not quite there yet.On a different note i wonder, if type the server load of all of those services (incl. say an activity.pub implementation for any CMS) impose on a private website, hosted on a shared host etc. Is that feasible at all? Or do we end up at least with cost/abilties of a VPS, alternatively my own Mastodon server for 6$/month? https://masto.host/pricing/@chrisaldrich @aaronpk
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@jayrope what are you trying to achieve? also masto.host really needs to adjust what their prices are listed at. my single user instance they just raised to 30$ a month cause I follow too many people.
@liaizon Yeah, i wasn’t meaning to promote masto.host. – That’s good information from you. Maybe i am tired of associating myself with one of the biggest doamins here. I am unsure, i enjoy the broader scope compared to a very small server (where i have one or there accounts to test) – all undecided, i am watching it, while spending 300-350/year on a shared account (unlimited verything) without actual root access, so can’t run Mastodon there. Thanks for your input in any case.
@liaizon @jayrope mastodon is so freaking heavy smh
@itzpaquet @liaizon Thanks for that, do you mean heavy on server load?
@jayrope @liaizon yeah it takes a lot of server to do pretty simple tasks like send an http request. just to illustrate, 1 raspberry pi 3b+ can run a single user akkoma server, doing the same on mastodon takes 6 of the same computers if I remember right
@itzpaquet Cool. Wasn’t aware of Akkoma.
@Ciantic Depends a bit on how you use Mastodon or parts of the Fediverse. Have you tried following my “other” instance @chrisaldrich@boffosocko.com? It’s a work in progress, but it shows better HTML support. We definitely need better web-native tools here.
@liaizon @jayrope I, and I suspect that if you asked @aaronpk and @manton, would say that their sites are web-native platforms which support ActivityPub rather than the other way around. I’m sure they both do many more functions and have more native flexibility than AP provides, and at a fraction of the dev, maintenance costs, and admin tax.
@jayrope So you’re not having issues using Mastodon to reach your friends and family who are in other places on the web like Facebook, Instagram, Tumblr, etc.?!? This is one of the issues many are still missing in their move to Mastodon/ActivityPub–they’ve made some progress into a healthier web space, but we could still go further to break down the silo walls for a better open web. 😉
@chrisaldrich Sure, i reach them over there. Or we have telephones, postboxes (yeah, snail mail) & email. No need to convince them to join my own efforts exploring rare benefits of net-based communication – many aren’t like that & need no public (fake) support either.I enjoy Mastodon curiously, since i learned to filter things – even the federated stream now has benefits in worldwide, diverse, multilingual information. Just like direct democracy this requires a LOT of work. Not a convenience.
@chrisaldrich This cannot be boosted hard enough. Especially as I’m looking to use ActivityPub and #IndieWeb stuff together as a commenting and forum system for my personal site…
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