🎧 ‚ÄėThe Daily‚Äô: The C.I.A.‚Äôs Moral Reckoning | New York Times

Listened to ‚ÄėThe Daily‚Äô: The C.I.A.‚Äôs Moral Reckoning by Michael Barbaro from nytimes.com

Gina Haspel, President Trump’s pick for C.I.A. director, faced the Senate Intelligence Committee for the first time on Wednesday as her confirmation hearings began. Lawmakers addressed her with an unusual line of questioning: What is your moral character?

On today’s episode:

‚Äʬ†Matthew Rosenberg¬†joins us from Washington, where he covers intelligence and national security for The New York Times.

Background reading:

‚ÄĘ Ms. Haspel¬†defended the C.I.A.‚Äôs torture of terrorism suspects after the Sept. 11 attacks, but vowed that she would not start another interrogation program.

‚ÄĘ Among¬†the issues raised in the hearing¬†were Ms. Haspel‚Äôs involvement in a black site in Thailand where Qaeda suspects were tortured, her role in carrying out an order to destroy videotapes of C.I.A. interrogations, and her willingness to defy¬†a president who has supported waterboarding.

We’ve recently seen the head of the F.B.I. be ousted because he ostensibly wouldn’t take a loyalty oath and refused to close an investigation. Could this happen again? Could it be far worse?

They stopped far too short here in opening up questions of harkening back to the Third Reich and Hitler and his government commanding people to commit genocide. We all know there’s a line one can’t cross and use the defense that “I was commanded to by the authorities.”

So the real question is: will Haspel stand up to Trump to prevent moral atrocities which Trump may want to inflict, whether this may extend to areas like torture or, perhaps, far worse?

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