Which are you? Building a second brain, Mind-palace pack rat, Zettelkasten
— Robert Haisfield (@RobertHaisfield) March 13, 2021
Why not all three?! I’d really describe myself as mnemonist with a digital commonplace book.
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He’s signing copies of a book ... that someone else wrote?
And it’s not even one of the books the Seuss estate decided to stop publishing?
And the Seuss estate is “the Left”?
What?— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) March 13, 2021.@tedcruz is signing copies of Green Eggs & Ham for a $60 contribution, via my text message inbox. pic.twitter.com/BNnZC235w7
— Vaughn Hillyard (@VaughnHillyard) March 12, 2021
Let’s be honest. If you’re going to have someone sign a Dr. Seuss book that isn’t Theodor Geisel, at least get someone truly consequential—and for a good reason.
Long threads like this one I give up on on the Twitter app, but unrolled I read straight through, and was worth it. But thread unrollers are evil because they make money from other peoples’ content. But they add value and work went into making them. What’s the solution? https://t.co/gF1NG7LQfC
— Chris Wells (@sceo) March 10, 2021
For posting threads to Twitter, I love NoterLive.com which gives you raw HTML you could cut and paste to your own website. (I do wish it had Micropub support, so I could just authenticate and post it to my site directly.)
There is a space for an open source thread viewer though. Perhaps something along the lines of what Dave Winer has been experimenting with? Though his also has functionality for posting to his website too.
It was 2003. I was just getting my first taste of blogging and similar experiments on the world wide web. Seemingly every blog I toured showcased a long list of the owner’s friends. These wer…
Michael Beckwith, this is genius. Long live blogrolls!
But let’s be honest, they’re a sort of discovery method that is also built into other social platforms: Twitter lists,Twitter follow lists, Facebook lists, etc. Most now have AI using these lists to suggest who you ought to follow next. When will WordPress get that plugin?
My issue is that in a bigger social space, we need full pages for these sorts of data rather than the small sidebar widgets of yore.
This was the last serious conversation I remember seeing about the old Link Manager:
@photomatt I recall the jokes made about crusty blogrolls when we deprecated the links manager. Now, folks are exhuming it for use as their canonical OPML source to feed OPML subscriptions. https://t.co/Lt6cpWwkuj
— Ryan Boren (@rboren) July 17, 2018
So… should I “update” the link manager? On one hand, it has a 2-year warning. On the other, do we want it to show prominently in search?
— Andrew Nacin (@nacin) July 17, 2018
So who besides Michael has a blogroll now? Mine’s at https://boffosocko.com/about/following/. Where’s yours?!
This thread actually prompts another question: where can I go to talk about RSS? Is there a Discord I can join? A mailing list? A blog comment section? Would love to know where people with experience working with RSS hang out. https://t.co/UIw7OJgJFd
— Micah R Ledbetter (@mrled) March 9, 2021
Discord. Ha!
What we really need is a planet of posts tagged with RSS that has its own RSS feed! I’ll start by offering my feed about RSS: https://boffosocko.com/tag/RSS/feed/
Or maybe if you’re daring, we need a shareable OPML file of feeds? Send me your feed about RSS, and I’ll add it to my list.
But seriously what is really new in RSS land?
RSS 2.0 will celebrate it’s 12th birthday at the end of the month on March 30th. It hasn’t changed or evolved since that time.
While many say it’s dead, it’s still thriving all around the web as a serious form of glue that’s supported by almost every major platform out there.
People are still adding these sidefiles to their sites all these years later. In fact, I just read a colleague’s article about moving from ATOM to RSS the other day. And it wasn’t that long ago that the Knight First Amendment Institute fixed their RSS feed.
But who is still iterating on doing new and interesting things with RSS?
One of the more interesting things I’ve seen is Julien Genestoux‘s work with SubToMe, which iterates significantly on making RSS easier to use and subscribe to sites.
There’s also Dave Winer‘s work with OPML and FeedBase which are intriguing.
Last year I saw some ideas out of Matt Webb who also made https://aboutfeeds.com/.
Ryan Barrett has some great RSS translation tools in Granary.
I’m using RSS and OPML to power a blogroll on steroids.
What are your favorite RSS tools and experiments?
It's saturay, so how about some indieweb inspiration for #pressEdConf21 with @ChrisAldrich" and his talk #PressEdConf19 Webmention Badges" https://t.co/hEvQvzdCAp
— PressED Conf - A tweeting WordPress conference (@pressedconf) March 6, 2021
I’ve PressED on about Webmention before, but all the credit for this talk goes to @jgmac1106. This is a good reminder to prep for this year’s #PressEDConf21 though.
Andy Bell (Twitter)I'm p sure a little RSS reader that has a little comment box and a “like” button under each item that send little web mentions would be the perfect set up for a wholesome, self-owned network
— Andy Bell (@piccalilli_) March 1, 2021
It’s not quite Aaron Parecki’s social reader set up, but I’ve described how to bootstrap some of this to Inoreader until they decide to support micropub capabilities to make this easier.
I'm starting to get triggered by "experts" who organize their bookshelf by color. What kind of expert doesn't use Melvil Dewey's system?pic.twitter.com/19aRkmCAqo
— Joseph Dickson (@joe4ska) February 26, 2021
I’m not a fan of color for categorizing books either, but Dewey’s classification is underpinned by incredibly racist ideas. Perhaps look at any one of the many others?
Boris (Fission Talk)Description
People write tweetstorms because they’re “easier” than whatever their blog setup is. And the constraints of 280 characters at a time makes for both careful sentence construction and flow.
But - then you’ve got this lovely writing that is trapped on Twitter. At best, you come back and copy / paste the tweets back into a blog post.
The idea is a Micropub enabled tweetstorm builder. You log into it with your Twitter account and with Indieauth so that posts end up as one big blog post on your own site, but are sent to Twitter as a tweetstorm / collection.
User Impact
Who would want to use this and why?
Anyone that wants to compose tweetstorms in a richer environment while also having it post to their own site.
Features
PWA
Twitter login
Create a Twitter collection — I actually don’t know what all the features of collections are. Tweetbot supports this.
IndieAuth / Micropub support
Choose timing of tweets — all at once or pace them out by X minutes
Boris, I love this idea of this and how it could work.
If you haven’t come across it, ThreadReaderApp does something similar to this but in a reverse syndication instead of the method you’re describing. It allows one to publish a thread on Twitter and then use ThreadReaderApp to roll the thread up and post a copy of it to one’s website that supports Micropub. I’ve written a bit about how it works here: boffosocko.com/2020/05/28/threadreaderapp-micropub-to-blog/
I’d love to see something more like what you’re describing.
Another interesting option for this that has a lot of the functionality you’re looking for is Kevin Marks’ Noter Live. I know he’s considered adding Micropub functionality to it. I suspect he’d be very open to anyone who’d like to add that or other refinements via pull request to GitHub – kevinmarks/noterlive: A tool for indieweb live noting (aka live tweeting/live blogging). It does post live threads to twitter and currently gives the output as raw HTML that one could cut/paste into their site.
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Description
People write tweetstorms because they’re “easier” than whatever their blog setup is. And the constraints of 280 characters at a time makes for both careful sentence construction and flow.
But - then you’ve got this lovely writing that is trapped on Twitter. At best, you come back and copy / paste the tweets back into a blog post.
The idea is a Micropub enabled tweetstorm builder. You log into it with your Twitter account and with Indieauth so that posts end up as one big blog post on your own site, but are sent to Twitter as a tweetstorm / collection.
User Impact
Who would want to use this and why?
Anyone that wants to compose tweetstorms in a richer environment while also having it post to their own site.
Features
PWA
Twitter login
Create a Twitter collection — I actually don’t know what all the features of collections are. Tweetbot supports this.
IndieAuth / Micropub support
Choose timing of tweets — all at once or pace them out by X minutes
Boris, I love this idea of this and how it could work.
If you haven’t come across it, ThreadReaderApp does something similar to this but in a reverse syndication instead of the method you’re describing. It allows one to publish a thread on Twitter and then use ThreadReaderApp to roll the thread up and post a copy of it to one’s website that supports Micropub. I’ve written a bit about how it works here: https://boffosocko.com/2020/05/28/threadreaderapp-micropub-to-blog/
I’d love to see something more like what you’re describing.
Another interesting option for this that has a lot of the functionality you’re looking for is Kevin Marks’ http://www.noterlive.com/. I know he’s considered adding Micropub functionality to it. I suspect he’d be very open to anyone who’d like to add that or other refinements via pull request to https://github.com/kevinmarks/noterlive. It does post live threads to twitter and currently gives the output as raw HTML that one could cut/paste into their site.
Come with me as I briefly explore Blogrolls and re-introducing them in 2021 and creating a WordPress Block for their display.
I have so many ideas about this. The first one being that it’s awesome.
While WordPress is about websites, it’s also got a lot of pieces of social media sites hiding under the hood and blogrolls are generally precursors of the following/followed piece.
Blogrolls were traditionally stuck on a small widget, but I think they now deserve their own full pages. I’d love to have one with a list of all the people I follow (subscribe to) as well as a similar one with those who follow me (and this could be implemented with webmention receipts of others who have me on their blogroll). I’ve got versions/mock ups of these pages on my own site already as examples.
Next up is something to make these easier to use and import. I’d love a bookmarklet or a browser extension that I could use one click with to have the person’s page imported into my collection of links that parses the page (perhaps the h-card or meta data) and pulls all the data into the link database.
I always loved the fact that the original generated OPML files (even by category) so that I could dump the list of data from my own site into a feed reader and just go. Keeping this would be awesome, but the original hasn’t been updated in so long it doesn’t use the updated OPML spec
If such a curated list is able to be maintained on my site it would also be cool if I could export it in such a way (similar to OPML) as to dovetail it with social readers like Aperture, Yarns, or other Microsub servers to easily transport or mirror the data there.
Here are some related thoughts: https://boffosocko.com/2017/11/10/a-following-page/
I’m happy to chat about other useful/related features relating to this any time!
Rotana Ty (Twitter)To be independent of media platforms and to own our data are why we use WP. May interest you: on an Indieweb: https://t.co/yJEpJexunz
— Rotana Ty (@rotanarotana) February 13, 2021
Rotana Ty, I’m curious if you’ve tried using any of the IndieWeb plugin suite for WordPress? Webmention/Semantic Linkback plugins for site-to-site notifications/conversation or Micropub plugin and clients for making posting simpler?
Aaron Davis (Read Write Respond)Reflecting on my year in space last year and my theme of ideas for the new year. For a few years now, inspired by Kath Murdoch, I have been choosing a word to focus on each year. Last year I made a change, where rather than thinking about outcomes, I instead turned to inquiry. Inspired by a few ref...
I like this idea. My own word for the year is “anthropology”, though I haven’t written it out yet as you have.
I can’t help but thinking you picked a helluva a year to choose “space.”
Given your current word, the first few things that come immediately to mind and which you may appreciate are:
- Matthew Ridley’s talk on When Ideas have sex
- Richard Dawkins work on the idea of memes in The Selfish Gene (Oxford, 1976). While the whole book is a classic, he’s got a chapter or two specifically on memes where the term was coined.
- And finally, I was at a presentation last year that had some fascinating framing around the difference between what we mean when we say idea versus concept.
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Abide the Twin Damnation (@tindall@cybre.space) (Cybrespace)communities disappearing from self-hosted forums and even Livejournal to places like Tumblr and Twitter, and to a lesser extent Reddit, was a move from spaces we controlled to spaces designed to control us
of course, this happened for good reasons - accessibility first and foremost. it allowed many new communities to form, too. if we want to have control, we need to ensure access too.
phpBB is terrible but it does what it wants to do. same with Discourse, though some design decisions are... odd. mastodon, on the other hand, does _not_ do what it tries to do - build communities around microblogging
what we need is to build federated forum software with two-way syndication - accessible from the Fediverse, from Twitter, from Tumblr, even from IM platforms.
for example - these posts syndicate to Twitter, but comments don't syndicate back, which means I have to maintain a real presence there.
If you like, you could use Brid.gy to get comments and reactions back from Twitter with Webmention support for your site. I’ve outlined some of it for how I’m doing it on WordPress, but the idea is very adaptable for any website out there, and there’s a growing list of pre-existing code one could leverage.
(Hint: this also works for other common social platforms which Bridgy supports. As examples, I’ve got two-way communication set up between my site and Github and Mastodon just to name a few, so I don’t need to actively visit those sites on a regular basis. I pipe most of the content into a social reader like Monocle or Indigenous and reply directly from there.)
Webmention can be used as some of the community glue for things you’ve mentioned in your thread as well. As an example, I can post on my website and syndicate that content to IndieWeb.xyz (using Webmention) where others can discover it (perhaps by category) and interact with it using their own websites. If they have Webmention support as well we can have a site to site conversation that could potentially all be mirrored on IndieWeb.xyz which acts as a conversation and discovery hub.
This ecosystem is slowly growing and flourishing, but we still need work on making it all easier and more accessible as well as helping to guard against potential abuses and bad actors to make things safer for bigger public communities at scale. (I notice you’ve got a great site, that touches on and covers some of these topics like security and identity.)
He was named professor emeritus after teaching in the Department of Philosophy for nearly four decades
I was thinking about logic a bit this evening and looked up an old professor. Saddened to hear he’s passed away.