Has anyone gotten webmention set up on a WordPress blog solely for internal references? So that when you link to previous of your own posts, those posts will then also link back, creating a deeper contextual web on your blog?
Bix, this functionality is definitely built into the Webmention for WordPress plugin as a default. You may need to go to Webmention settings (/wp-admin/admin.php?page=webmention) and make sure your self-ping settings will allow it.
If you wanted, you could also modify the Webmention type and/or the excerpt that shows in the comment section, though you’d need to do it manually.
I’m not aware of anyone using it “only” for this purpose. I think David Shanske also has built some whitelisting settings for Webmention moderation so that you can automatically approve ones from certain domains. I would suspect you could use some of those portions to reject any incoming webmentions from external URLs, but it may require a few lines of code to do it.</p
I spun up a new instance of Wikity today at http://wikity.chrisaldrich.net/ to test it out for potential use as a personal online wiki. My goal was also to test out how it may or may not work with IndieWeb-based WordPress pieces too.
Below are my initial thoughts and problems.
The /home/ page has a lot of errors and warnings. (Never a good sign.)
It took me a few minutes to figure out where the Wik-it! bookmarklet button was hiding. Ideally it would have been in the start card that described how the bookmarklet would work (in addition to its original spot).
The Wikity theme seems to have some issues when using for http vs. https.
Less seems to work out of the box with https
The main card for entering “Name of Concept or Data” didn’t work at all under https. It only showed the title and wouldn’t save. Switching to http seemed to fix it and show the editor bar.
Nothing seemed to work at all when I had my site as https. In fact, it redirected to a URL that seemed like it wanted to run update.php for some bizarre reason.
On http I at least get a card saying that the process failed.
Not sure what may be causing this.
Doesn’t seem to matter how many cards it is.
Perhaps it’s the fact that Aaron’s site is https? I notice that his checkbox export functionality duplicates his entire URL including the https:// within the export box which seems to automatically prepend http://
Copying to my own wiki seems to vaguely work using http, but failed on https.
Multiple * in the markdown editor functionality within WordPress doesn’t seem to format the way I’d expect.
Sadly, the original Wikity.cc site is down, but the theme still includes a link to it front and center on my website.
The home screen quick new card has some wonky CSS that off centers it.
Toggling full screen editing mode in new cards from the home screen makes them too big and obscures the UI making things unusable.
The primary multi-card home display doesn’t work well with markup the way the individual posts do.
The custom theme seems to be hiding some of the IndieWeb pieces. It may also be hampering the issuance of webmention as I tried sending one to myself and it only showed up as a pingback. It didn’t feel worth the effort to give the system a full IndieWeb test drive beyond this.
Doing this set up as a theme and leveraging posts seems like a very odd choice. From my reading, Mike Caulfield was relatively new to WordPress development when he made this. Even if he was an intermediate developer, he should be proud of his effort, including his attention to some minute bits of UI that others wouldn’t have considered. To make this a more ubiquitous solution, it may have been a better choice to create it as a plugin, do a custom post type for wiki cards and create a separate section of the database for them instead of trying to leverage posts. This way it could have been installed on any pre-existing WordPress install and the user could choose their own favorite theme and still have a wiki built into it. In this incarnation it’s really only meant to be installed on a fresh stand-alone site.
I only used the Classic Editor and didn’t even open up the Gutenberg box of worms in any of my tests.
Summary
The Wikity theme hasn’t been maintained in four years and it looks like it’s going to take quite a bit of work (or a complete refactoring) to make it operate the way I’d want it to. Given the general conceptualization it may make much more sense to try to find a better maintained solution for a wiki.
The overarching idea of what he was trying to accomplish, particularly within the education space and the OER space, was awesome. I would love nothing more than to have wiki-like functionality built into my personal WordPress website, particularly if I could have different presentations for the two sides but still maintain public/private versions of pieces and still have site-wide tagging and search. Having the ability to port data from site to site is a particularly awesome idea.
Is anyone actively still using it? I’d love to hear others’ thoughts about problems/issues they’ve seen. Is it still working for you as expected? Is it worth upgrading the broken bits? Is it worth refactoring into a standalone plugin?
Theme for NHS organisations based on the NHS Digital frontend framework. Highly customisable for all types of NHS organisations, from campaign sites to primary care providers to arms length bodies to community practices. This can also be used for non NHS organisations.
via Kevin Marks, who asks if we could add microformats to it, from
There’s a brand new, open source, theme for WordPress users in the NHS.
Nightingale 2.0 – https://t.co/h4nKAqVfq3
Responsive, accessible, free, and gorgeous.
Great work by the NHS Leadership Academy Digital Team.
If you’re careful with how you deal with the YouTube playback speed settings, you can almost attend all of the three glorious tracks of sessions at WordCamp Santa Clarita Valley before the day is over.
For those searching for links and help from tonight’s online meetup. If Meetup.com isn’t up to the task, I happen to have a WordPress website that can do the job.
19:02:08 From Jason Orellana : Hey Everyone!
19:02:22 From Connie Nassios : Hi!
19:02:22 From Wafic : Hi everyone
19:03:56 From BreAnn Mueller : Hi!! 🙂 🙂
19:04:27 From Grace C : Hello!!
19:04:32 From J.H. : Hi all
19:06:23 From Connie Nassios : You can do it, Alex!!
19:06:34 From Chris Aldrich : I’m hosting an online WordPress Homebrew Website Club meetup on Thursday: https://events.indieweb.org/2020/04/wordpress-indieweb-online-meetup-NjCeyH2w2kSI
19:06:43 From Sean Conklin : WordCamp Santa Clarita (virtual being planned for two weeks out) http://2020.santaclarita.wordcamp.org
19:06:48 From Grace C : Don’t see raise hand function
19:07:50 From Sean Conklin : WP Santa Clarita Meetup is here (March meetup postponed): https://www.meetup.com/wordpressscv/
19:08:53 From BreAnn Mueller : Grace—click on “participants” on the bottom, and a side-panel will pop up with a list of all the people on the call—and look on the bottom and there is a “raise hand” option there
19:09:38 From BreAnn Mueller : Alex—btw, I think if you stop sharing your screen, we have the ability to change our view so we can see everybody in a big grid
19:09:40 From Saied Abbasi : Wafic will not be silenced
19:10:19 From Grace C : Thank you BreAnn
19:10:25 From James White : Can we see all the participants at once? Maybe if Alex makes the presenter area smaller?
19:10:59 From Wafic : Saied, That’s Right. You cannot silence the Media!!! Or silence the truth!
19:11:50 From Chris Charlton : Zoom attendee “gallery” view is only available when no screen is being shared.
19:12:38 From Chris Aldrich : You should be able to stretch the screen from the share to see everyone in gallery view.
19:13:02 From Chris Aldrich : (Though that may require the client and not the webbrowser version.)
19:13:42 From BreAnn Mueller : Alexxxxx! stop sharing your screen (pretty please) 🙂
19:14:21 From James White : There we go!
19:14:23 From James White : ty!!!
19:14:30 From BreAnn Mueller : Thank you!! Hurray!!
19:16:18 From Chris Aldrich : Here’s the non CMS specific HomeBrew Website Club tomorrow night: https://events.indieweb.org/2020/04/online-homebrew-website-club-west-coast-JsujusQZLM7Z
19:17:19 From Ray Scarpa : I’m Ray with NINJA Mobile, so high tech I haven’t figured out how to get my 10 year old webcam mic to work after installing it 15 minutes ago. We’re just building wordpress sites for clients to supplement mobile apps and Roku/Amazon Fire TV channels. Sure that I’ll learn something just listening in. Thanks for doing this!
19:21:00 From Chris Aldrich : Anyone notice that https://alexhasnicehair.com/ doesn’t seem to be diminished at all by the headphones? 🙂
19:22:23 From Grace C : haHaha…very true about Alex’s hair 🙂
19:23:17 From Alexander vasquez : haha
19:23:20 From BreAnn Mueller : hahaha Chris!
19:24:18 From Wafic : Where is Saied? He seems to be in a remote area in the mopuntains
19:24:32 From Wafic : Hello, what about ME?
19:27:31 From Joe Davenport : Matomo
19:28:49 From steve : I use StatCounter.com
19:29:50 From Chris Aldrich : There’s a handful of ideas for analytics here: https://indieweb.org/website-analytics (I’ve run piwik/matomo before, but not really using much now.)
19:30:16 From Chris Charlton : Thanks, Steve
19:30:21 From Chris Charlton : Thanks, Chris
19:31:09 From Chris Aldrich : Woo(t) Woo(t)!
19:31:18 From Wafic : Hi Sean
19:31:38 From Joe Davenport : https://matomo.org/
19:31:53 From Chris Aldrich : It’s never too late to have a child theme!
19:32:09 From Joe Davenport : https://goaccess.io/
19:32:19 From Linda Horan : Where is the icon to raise hand?
19:32:47 From Chris Charlton : The ‘Raise Hand’ button is available in the Participants window, if that helps
19:33:01 From Sean Conklin : Or use Customizer to add CSS and code snippets to activate custom PHP functions. Child themes are necessary when overriding template files from plugins.
19:34:31 From Jason Orellana : Alex, I believe you can mute everyone and use the zoom push to talk feature which I believe is just press the spacebar.
19:35:09 From Sean Conklin : Code Snippets plugin https://wordpress.org/plugins/code-snippets/
19:35:29 From Joe Davenport : Woody snippits
19:35:34 From Joe Davenport : https://wordpress.org/plugins/insert-php/
19:38:32 From Connie Nassios : https://wordpress.org/plugins/child-theme-configurator/
19:38:57 From Linda Horan : For a newbie, is it recommended to stick with a WordPress them as opposed to a third party theme?
19:39:05 From Linda Horan : WordPress theme…
19:39:20 From Alexander vasquez : Linda, we’ll get to your q question.
19:39:24 From Connie Nassios : Yes – stick with a WP theme….my 2-cents
19:41:13 From Sean Conklin : I’ve heard it’s required in UK to not track until agreed, but for here CCA only applies to larger entities.
19:41:33 From Chris Charlton : Best to be safe, right, Sean
19:42:01 From Steve Shorr : https://www.npr.org/2019/12/30/791190150/california-rings-in-the-new-year-with-a-new-data-privacy-law
19:42:17 From Wafic : Cookies from me to all of you. Who wants to offer coffee?
19:42:18 From Steve Shorr : https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/privacy-laws
19:42:28 From Steve Shorr : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Privacy_Protection_Act
19:42:32 From Connie Nassios : Chocolate chip?
19:42:55 From ferrisgluck : where is the hand raising function? I don’t see it
19:43:58 From Ray Scarpa : Seeing the Raise Hand on my window it’s right above the chat to the left, along a set of icons
19:44:39 From Sean Conklin : Free official themes: https://github.com/Automattic/themes
19:44:48 From ferrisgluck : definitely not on my screen; oh well 🙁
19:45:02 From BreAnn Mueller : Ferris—if you click on “participants” on the bottom, a panel pops up on the right side with a list of all the people—and on the bottom there is a raise hand optin
19:45:34 From Alexander vasquez : https://wordpress.org/themes/
19:45:56 From ferrisgluck : Aha!! Thanks, BreAnn!!! 🙂
19:46:06 From BreAnn Mueller : No prob! 🙂
19:48:20 From Steve Shorr : https://www.keycdn.com/support/wordpress-retina
19:48:52 From Grace C : https://www.greengeeks.com/tutorials/article/support-retina-display-images-wordpress/
19:49:01 From Steve Shorr : https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/make-images-retina-ready/
19:49:16 From Alexander vasquez : Thanks, BreAnn!
19:50:36 From Chris Gomez : https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/make-images-retina-ready/
19:52:52 From Linda Horan : Should 2020 be avoided?
19:53:04 From Chris Aldrich : No, it’s a great little theme.
19:53:13 From Alexander vasquez : The theme is great.
19:53:17 From Alexander vasquez : The year not so much. =)
19:53:38 From Chris Charlton : I’m in the future: my theme is 3020
19:54:58 From Steve Shorr : I thought Open graph was only for Facebook
19:55:39 From Grace C : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Graph
19:57:21 From Chris Charlton : OpenGraph is NOT only for Facebook. It’s used for many sites, any engine that displays “Rich Snippets” (previews) of your content (image, headline, summary, etc.)
19:58:02 From Grace C : https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/o/open-graph.htm
19:58:26 From Wafic : Who are the SEO folks in the room?
19:59:07 From Chris Aldrich : http://www.kevinmarks.com/partialsilos.html
19:59:43 From Chris Aldrich : That post is a good example of the sorts of tricks one can play with various meta data ^^
20:04:27 From BreAnn Mueller : Gotta jump off the call here! Thanks so much alex and everybody, great to see you all! 🙂
20:04:47 From Wafic : Bye BreAnn
20:05:12 From Ray Scarpa : Same here, really appreciate everyone’s time!
20:05:23 From Alexander vasquez : By BreAnn!
20:05:42 From Connie Nassios : https://wordpress.org/plugins/getwid/
20:05:56 From Sean Conklin : I used Gutenberg on my home page https://codedcommerce.com along with the JetPack blocks (contact form) and WooCommerce blocks (product categories). I recommend installing the Gutenberg plugin so you get the latest version.
20:06:07 From Connie Nassios : https://wordpress.org/plugins/kadence-blocks/
20:07:03 From Jason Orellana : WordPress.org/plugins/ultimate-addons-for-Gutenberg/
20:07:13 From Alexander vasquez : https://woocommerce.com/storefront/
20:07:38 From Grace C : https://www.wpbeginner.com/showcase/gutenberg-friendly-wordpress-themes/
20:07:47 From Jason Orellana : https://plugins/atomic-blocks
20:07:58 From Connie Nassios : https://www.kadencewp.com/product/virtue-free-theme/
20:11:31 From Alexander vasquez : https://wordpress.org/plugins/social-media-auto-publish/
20:11:48 From Chris Aldrich : Here you go Wafik: https://wordpress.org/plugins/social-networks-auto-poster-facebook-twitter-g/
20:17:46 From Wafic : NextScripts: Social Networks Auto-Poster is untested with the current WordPress version
20:18:48 From ferrisgluck : Thank you Sean!!!!
20:19:40 From Chris Charlton : @Jason I would consider an LMS = Learning Management System over a CMS
20:20:40 From Chris Charlton : I rescind my answer; Alex’s suggestions were good
20:21:05 From Sean Conklin : https://senseilms.com is by Automattic, worth a look.
20:21:10 From Steve Shorr : bye great meeting and I saved 2 hours driving
20:23:36 From Grace C : https://alternativeto.net/software/meetup/?license=opensource
20:25:40 From Grace C : Thank you all, this was all very informative.
20:26:21 From Wafic : Are we going for tacos?
20:26:38 From Sharon Stuewe : I really enjoyed this type of meeting! Let’s Zoom again.
20:26:38 From Wafic : 🙂
20:26:47 From Linda Horan : I got a lot of really helpful info that I’ll be following up on for a while
20:26:51 From Jason Orellana : virtual tacos and beer
20:26:55 From Connie Nassios : Alex – you’re the best!!
20:27:01 From Saied Abbasi : Thank you Alex!! And everybody
20:27:03 From Wafic : Great hair Alex
20:27:14 From Grace C : Thank you, Alex for putting this together.
20:27:16 From ferrisgluck : Thank you Alex & everybody else! Alex rocks!!
20:27:29 From James White : 👋🏼
20:27:31 From Michael Kieley : Thanks, Alex
20:27:34 From Sean Conklin : Great leading Alex! It’s not easy, and we appreciate you 🙂
20:27:34 From Chris Gomez : thank you!
20:27:52 From Alexander vasquez : https://github.com/ahmadawais/corona-cli
20:28:40 From Wafic : https://www.coloradoboulevard.net/updated-covid-19-cases-amongst-our-neighbors-friends-and-families-in-greater-pasadena-area/
Online Event
April 16, 2020 at 07:00PM- April 16, 2020 at 09:00PM
Hello there, fellow West Valley WordPressers.How are you coping with the Safer-at-Home ordinance and everything that's been going on lately? We hope you've been faring well...
Interested in the Indieweb, but you already have a WordPress site? Do you have a WordPress website or thinking of starting one?
Whether you’re a blogger, coder, designer, or just someone who wants to improve their presence on the web, if you have a WordPress site and want to add Indieweb functionality to it, this is the meetup for you.
Expand your reach, improve your connection with your audience. Make it easier to interact with your website. Have better control of your web presence.
With recent events keeping many of us at home, what better time is there to connect your presence on the web to others?
7:00-7:15 - Introductions
7:15-7:45 - overview of Indieweb tools and WordPress
Abstract: With growing support for the W3C Webmention spec, teachers can post assignments on their own websites & students can use their sites to respond and interact. Entire classes can have open discussions from site-to-site owning all their data and eschewing corporate surveillance capitalism.
Missed my presentation for PressEdConf20on Twitter earlier and want to read it all bundled up instead? The “article” version appears blow. You can also enjoy the Twitter moment version if you like.
Hello everyone! My name is Chris Aldrich. I’m an independent researcher in a variety of areas including the overlap the internet and education. You can find more about me on my website https://boffosocko.com
Today I’ll be talking about Webmentions for open pedagogy.
For a variety of reasons (including lack of budget, time, support, and other resources) many educators have been using corporate tools from Google, Twitter, Facebook, and others for their ease-of-use as well as for a range of functionality that hadn’t previously existed in the blogosphere or open source software that many educators use or prefer.
This leaves us and our students open to the vagaries and abuses that those platforms continually allow including an unhealthy dose of surveillance capitalism.
In the intervening years since the blogosphere and the rise of corporate social media, enthusiasts, technologists and open source advocates have continued iterating on web standards and open protocols, so that now there are a handful of web standards that work across a variety of domains, servers, platforms, allowing educators to use smaller building blocks to build and enable the functionalities we need for building, maintaining, and most importantly owning our online courseware.
Some of these new W3Cspecs include Webmention, Micropub, WebSub, IndieAuth, and Microsub. Today I’ll talk abut Webmentions which are simply site-to-site @mentions or notifications which don’t involve corporate social media silos.
Many common content management systems support Webmention either out of the box or with plugins including: our friend WordPress, Drupal, WithKnown, Grav, and many others.
WordPress can use this new standard with the Webmention plugin. (Surprise!) I also highly recommend the Semantic Linkbacks plugin which upgrades the presentation of these notifications (like Trackback, Pingback, or Webmention) to more user-friendly display so they appear in comments sections much like they do in corporate social media as comments, reposts, likes, and favorites, detected using microformats2 markup from the source of the linkback.
Another plugin I love is Post Kinds Plugin (Classic editor only at present) which automatically parses URLs I want to reply to, like, bookmark, etc. and saves the reply context to my website which helps prevent context collapse. My commentary and notes then appear below it.
(I also use a plugin that saves the content of URLs on my site to the Internet Archive, so I can reference them there later if necessary.)
These plugins with WordPress allow teachers to post course content and students can then post their responses on their own sites and send notifications that they’ve read, listened to, or watched that content along with their ideas and commentary.
Notice the listen webmention in the comments which links to my listen response at: https://boffosocko.com/2018/08/06/2toponder-episode-one-intertextrevolution/ where I own a copy of the context and my own response. As a student, even if the originals disappear, I’ve got the majority of the important content from the course.
When the course is over, the student has an archive of their readings, work, and participation (portfolio anyone?) on a site they own. They can choose to leave it public or unpublish it and keep private copies.
[Copies for Facebook, Google+ or Big EdTech Giants? They can ask for them nicely if they want them so desperately instead of taking them surreptitiously.]
By taking the content AND the conversation around it out of the hands of “big social media” and their constant tracking and leaving it with the active participants, we can effect far more ethical EdTech.
[No more content farming? What will the corporate social media silos do?]
Imagine Webmentions being used for referencing journal articles, academic samizdat, or even OER? Suggestions and improvement could accumulate on the original content itself rather than being spread across dozens of social silos on the web.
[Webmentions + creativity: How might you take their flexibility and use it in your online teaching practices?]
There’s current research, coding work, and thinking going on within the IndieWeb community to extend ideas like private webmentions and limiting audience so that this sort of interaction can happen in more secluded online spaces.
I’ve also been able to use my WordPress website to collect posts relating to my participation in conferences like PressEdConf20 or Domains 2019 which included syndicated content to Twitter and the responses from there that have come back to my site using Brid.gy which bootstraps Twitter’s API to send Webmentions back to my website.
If Twitter were to go away, they may take some of my connections, but the content and the conversations will live on in a place under my own control.
Thanks for your time and attention! I’m around on Twitter–or better: my own website!–if you have any questions.
— PressED Conf - A tweeting WordPress conference (@pressedconf) March 26, 2020
And let’s not forget a huge THANK YOU to @nlaffertyand @pgogy for their continuing heroic efforts to organize, schedule, promote, mount, and execute the entire effort on an annual basis.
Thank you again!
FIFTEEN
I’ve also been able to use my WordPress website to collect posts relating to my participation in conferences like PressEdConf20 or Domains 2019 which included syndicated content to Twitter and the responses from there that have come back to my site using Brid.gy which bootstraps Twitter’s API to send Webmentions back to my website.
If Twitter were to go away, they may take some of my connections, but the content and the conversations will live on in a place under my own control.
Thanks for your time and attention! I’m around on Twitter–or better: my own website!–if you have any questions.
FOURTEEN
There’s current research, coding work, and thinking going on within the IndieWeb community to extend ideas like private webmentions and limiting audience so that this sort of interaction can happen in more secluded online spaces. I’d welcome everyone who’s interested to join in the effort. Feel free to inquire at an upcoming IndieWebCamp, Homebrew Website Club, event, or in online chat right now.
THIRTEEN
Imagine webmentions being used for referencing journal articles, academic samizdat, or even OER? Suggestions and improvement could accumulate on the original content itself rather than being spread across dozens of social silos on the web.
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By taking the content AND the conversation around it out of the hands of “big social media” and their constant tracking and leaving it with the active participants, we can effect far more ethical EdTech.
Bix (bix.blog)
